Fierce, Kind Mama of Multiples
This podcast is for anyone raising multiples (twins, triplets or more). I speak to inspiring parents of multiples who have healed from unexpected pregnancies and birthing experiences and who candidly share the highs and lows of raising multiples. I also speak to the professionals that work with multiple birth families. Together, we cover the practicalities of raising more than one baby at a time as well as enhancing the emotional wellbeing of caregivers and children alike.
Fierce, Kind Mama of Multiples
Nurturing Holistic Wellness with Reflexologist and Twin Mum, Monique Thomas-Potter
In this episode, I speak with dedicated reflexologist, holistic practitioner and twin mum, Monique Thomas-Potter. Monique shares her story, which began with her Caribbean grandmother's holistic remedies and led her to pursue reflexology as a means of natural healing.
Despite the challenges of studying during a pandemic and caring
for her family, Monique persevered and launched her own business, Feel at Home
Reflexology. Through her practice, she specializes in supporting mothers,
especially those navigating fertility issues, pregnancy, and overall wellness.
Monique's holistic approach extends beyond foot massages; she
emphasizes the importance of understanding her clients' lifestyles, stressors,
and emotional well-being. Her services include education on reproductive
health, nutrition, and lifestyle adjustments tailored to each individual.
Throughout the conversation, Monique offers valuable advice for
mothers, encouraging them to prioritize self-care and reclaim personal time
without guilt. She emphasizes the importance of letting go of control and
sharing parenting responsibilities, empowering mothers to nurture themselves
while caring for their families.
You can connect with Monique on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/feelathomereflexology/
Thanks for listening! If you are a soon-to-be or current parent of multiples, be sure to head over to my website http://www.fiercekindmama.com to get my FREE resources designed specifically for you!
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Dr Cristina Cavezza
Welcome to the Fierce Kind Mama of Multiples podcast. This podcast is for anyone raising multiples, twins, triplets or more. I speak to inspiring parents of multiples who have healed from unexpected pregnancies and birthing experiences and who candidly share the highs and lows of raising multiples.
I also speak to the professionals that work with multiple birth families. Together, we cover the practicalities of raising more than one baby at a time, as well as enhancing the emotional well-being of caregivers and children alike. Come join us as we laugh, cry and share our personal and professional wisdom on all things multiples. I'm your host Dr Cristina Cavezza and I am a Fierce Kind Mama of Multiples.
Welcome to today's show. Today I'm joined by Monique Thomas-Potter. Monique is a reflexologist working in the UK in Essex. She is also a mother of twin boys. You're going to hear Monique share about her journey as a twin mum, which necessitated a career change into running her own business. You're going to hear us talk more about reflexology and its benefits. I feel like Monique really stresses the importance of self-care and of creating a support network around you, particularly in those early days, so I hope you enjoy this discussion and if you have any questions, feel free to reach out to me or Monique. Our details are in the podcast show notes.
Before I welcome Monique on to the show, I want to remind you of some free resources that I have available at my website: www.fiercekindmama.com click on the Free Resources tab. From there, you will find a guide for expectant parents to be physically, financially, and emotionally prepared for your multiple birth journey. You will also find a guide on my 5 top tips for handling stress and overwhelm perfect for current parents of multiples as well as soon-to-be parents who want to be fully informed and prepared for what lies ahead.
Now onto today's interview.
So welcome, Monique to the show. Lovely to have you here.
Monique Thomas-Potter
Thank you very much. Thank you. Lovely to be. here.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Yeah. Why don't we start with you telling us a bit about yourself and your multiple birth journey?
Monique Thomas-Potter
OK, so I'm Monique and I have got twin boys. They're now age 5. Life is very lively, very busy. And I also have within the last few years. Started a business holistic business. And I I provide reflexology, Indian Head massage body massages, ear candling, crystal healing, etcetera um. And yeah, I I I the business was born because of the children and I found that the nine to five was really hard.
It wasn't allowing. Me to be able to, you know, give the time I needed to my children. I've always felt pressured. And you know, I I created the my service that I provide you know, around the children. I found that life became a little easier that I could, you know, be there when it was an activity play or be there when it was parent's evening and I wouldn't have, you know, to be stuck in a meeting at work or you know, I could plan my life. Around the children and around the family, you know, and around the mum that I wanted to be, you know, because sometimes I find when we're rigid and we in. In an office role, it can prevent us from being able to be at the things that we want to be because we have to have a meeting or we have, you know, to be with somebody or you know. So I think it's given me that that flexibility to be able to, you know, be there for my children and and also, you know, do something that I really love. I think it's important that. You know, we're only here once and that we enjoy what we do and spend more time doing those things and you know, create memories with our families, great memories in our lives. That and do the things we want to do.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Yeah, absolutely. That's wonderful. Thank you for sharing that. I just wonder if I can touch on some of the things that you said around having to. Change the focus of your work perhaps, or change how you worked after having twins, could you tell us a bit more about that? Like what were you doing before the twins were born?
Monique Thomas-Potter
I've always worked, so doing office roles. And I just, I just found that, you know, you'd have a lot of meetings to attend, and you'd have a lot of, you know. Like appointments with people, you have so many other commitments and it just it just wasn't working working for us. And. And, you know, sometimes employers don't always understand when you have children. And that's always going to be your first priority. So, you know, it just had to be, you know, a shift around of my priorities as well because, you know, sometimes your children get sick and then you feel the sense of guilt that actually you have to pull yourself away from. You know that that role that is that is, you know, paying your bills, but you have to pull yourself away from that role that you know needs you as well. And you feel very, I felt very torn in between what my children needed. And also what my, you know, my role was asking. As well. So yeah, that was the that was the main reason. Thought behind it and also you know working late sometimes you know your children then you know missing out on you being a mum at home with them and you know they they want you to be there you know and you're going to put them to bed and have their bath and stuff so. Yeah, it was. It's kind of a decision that I made in terms of, you know, my well-being as well as as their well-being because you can't spread yourself too thinly. At least you know, at the moment when I'm doing my holistic services that I can, you know, if I want to. Take a day off. I can take a day off. It's not necessarily structured around somebody else. I have that control over my, my day and my schedule. Really, you know, and a lot of the clients that I work with are fertility clients, pregnancy clients. I work with mums postnatally. And also, some menopause clients. So, people are quite generally quite understanding that have children and also a lot of them have children and they, you know, the work that is very flexible around family life. If they have a child who is unwell. You know, I can appreciate that and understand that. Or similarly if I have. a child who is unwell, and then, you know, they understand. So yeah, it works very nicely in that way as well.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Yeah, I think that's really important. Like the work needs to suit your lifestyle. And then you also have to have. I guess clients that understand your situation as well and parents or other people that are going through similar stages of life stages like pregnancy and that kind of thing, will have more of that understanding. But I hear you when you talk about, you know, being pulled between like the job and family. And I think so many people can probably relate to that. I know you're based in the UK. I just want to talk briefly about when you brought your babies home. So, going back to casting your mind back to those early days, did you feel well supported? And what types of services, if any, did you access and found helpful?
Monique Thomas-Potter
Well, when I when I brought my boys home, I was so overwhelmed because I've gone from being a mum of 0 or, you know, being pregnant to having two babies and me and my husband found out at the 12-week scan only because we had been on holiday at the time. And when we got back, it was the 12-week scan. But I've been so unwell in the pregnancy, had a lot of morning sickness, more so than you know anything else. Just you couldn't even go out on the holiday..it was that bad. And I've got. I got to the appointment. when after we got back from holiday. Like and I said to the. The lady she was putting the Jelly on my tummy and everything and I I said to her, I said I've been terribly sick in the pregnancy and and and she said Ohh. OK. And then as she turned the screen to me and my husband, she turned the screen around. She said Ohh the reason why you've been so sick in the pregnancy. As she turned as she turned the screen around is because you're not just. Having one baby, you're having two.
So, we were just like, oh, Oh my God. So that was a big shock, but we we kind of we kind of shook ourselves up after the the big shock and surprise and we you know, we really look forward to it them joining the world and you know I was really excited and happy and it was lovely to be able to tell my family. And so that was really nice. And then obviously when they came, we found out that there were boys as well at the time because I just thought, I've got so much organising to do, I need to know if they're boys or girls or, you know, one of each. So then obviously getting everything organised, buying two of everything or so we thought. And and yeah, just getting ready for them. And then they arrived. And, you know, I found that my family were really supportive, especially within the first sort of six months. I had a lot of family support. And I would say probably after that point, it kind of dwindled a little bit, which, you know, you feel like, where's my village here?
But I think I think sometimes people have it in their mind that actually, you know, you're you're doing great at this and actually you can, you can do this. And I could, I could do it. But I think sometimes you still need and want that support to be around you. I know that my family are there. If I do need them and but it's it's like sometimes you look at other families and you can feel like. Sometimes they will have people visiting every week and sometimes I do feel like ohh it would be nice to have that support on a weekly basis. So, myself and my husband have had to, you know, pay out for childcare and things, but it would have been nice to have a little bit more village around. But I think I think my village has been as well as family help from time to time. But my village has been my friends and I think. As a twin mum, I joined a local twins club and that was such a great source of support and I still have some really great friend friendships from there.
Yeah, I definitely think friendship. Has helped me through this journey and you know whether it be the highs, the lows, being able to pick up the phone or see your friend when you're going through that tough time or even good times. You know, it's really helped and having my supportive husband as well, that's been really lovely. And you know when they turned five, we kind of hi-fived each other that, you know, we've made it and we've done really well to actually have got this far cause it it. Tests. It tests all part of your life. It tests your career with your identity. Tests your you know your relationship. You know, with the ups and downs, the the sleepless nights, the you know you, you're both sometimes at each other's throats because you're just like, you know, this is so hard. But, you know, I think it's made me and my husband stronger over the years actually, because we, you know, we've done it together and actually we can see the fruits of our labour now with our children and how well they're doing, you know, you get the positive feedback from the school. All these, you know, your children are really lovely. Your children are kind, they're thoughtful. And that I when it was the first parent evening, I I nearly cried because I thought, wow, you know, this is this is what we've done and actually, you know, we're seeing the fruits of our labour now, even though we've had those such tough times, it's actually so worth it to see how how well they're shaped and we are shaping those human beings of the future. It is just yeah, it's priceless. And it's. Yeah, it's amazing, really.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Yeah, it's an amazing privilege, isn't it? To be a parent and to be a parent of multiples and to witness. I guess the the twinship and the connection also, though I think something you said that was so important that I want to touch on is you know the importance of the the village and the support network and and having people in your life who understand and I think that that's one of the main benefits of the twins clubs that you know, I know various countries have them, we have them where I'm based here in Australia, but I know that there are other countries like the UK, Canada, you know, America, other places have their their own local multiple birth associations. But I always tell people, you know, go check them out because I think that sometimes we forget that people have walked this path before us and they have a lot of wisdom to share. So, I love that you especially, you know how lucky to have those friends that that have also had twins that could share their experiences with you.
Monique Thomas-Potter
Yeah, because I think I think when you have twins like nobody can prepare you quite for, you know when, especially when they're newborn, that you're right, you're going around with the buggy and sometimes you might be having a bad day. But everybody talks to you, they say, you know, things like ohh are they twins? you know which a lot of people can relate to with twins. Are they twins? Are they identical? Are they natural? Are they this? Are they that and you get so much attention in. Sometimes you like you're having a bad day and you just wanna say to everybody. Just leave me alone, you know. But you've got to feel like you've you've got to answer everybody. And yeah, nothing. Quite. I don't. I don't think we were prepared for that. Especially myself. That how much attention that was going to be given to you and you know, everybody's looking everybody you know comes to look in the buggy and you just think, you know what, give me a little bit of space here, But yeah, it's it's it's so different, you know, obviously I haven't got anything to compare it to. But you know, sometimes people will try to compare having twins to having children at different ages I found as well. You know, I don't. I don't know. I've never had two different children at different ages to compare it to. But yeah, it's quite I think it's quite unique. The twin experience cause I like for example, I could be I could be downstairs and I could be tidying up and then they're upstairs and they're plotting together. So, one will be flooding the sink. And the other one would be drawing on the wall and all, just saying Oh my. Gosh, you know. It's it's all. There's always something happening. It's just a bit crazy, but I think in some ways that we wouldn't have it any other way because that's that's life now. So yeah, they definitely got together in good ways and in in, you know, mischievous ways as well. So yeah, it's it's lovely.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Yes. Yeah. And when you were speaking, I was thinking, you know, you were talking about the people kind of with the intrusive questions or stopping you. When you're pushing the pram and that kind of thing and asking you questions, I think it's so important for parents of multiples to know when to, you know, set boundaries like with your time, with your energy, with your personal space. And that can be really tricky. You know, when we have, we want to be polite. To strangers or even family and friends. But sometimes we also might just want to stay home in our pyjamas and stay there all day and not have any visitors, you know, not take visitors. So, I think that that is that is really important to stress.
Monique Thomas-Potter
And yeah it can. It can, you know, play havoc with your, with your mental health. I I think. And I've spoken to quite a few mums about that actually and how you know the impact of having two has impacted their mental health because I don't think it's something that's commonly spoken about but. You know, maternal mental health is is, you know, something that should be spoken about a bit more, I think because you know we we have twins and we kind of would just love to get on with it. But actually, you know, there's a lot of financial pressure because you've got two babies. There's a lot of, you know, emotional pressures. There's a lot of, you know, physical. Obviously, it affects your career so, but sometimes women have to give up their careers because they've got these two babies and actually they've got to choose whether it's it's. Affordable to go back to work. Or not. And that's actually part of your identity. So, there's so many different areas that are affected, but I think definitely mental health has to be mentioned because you know it it's it's life changing, isn't it?
Dr Cristina Cavezza
I couldn't agree more with what everything you've just said around mental health and the importance of looking after yourself, and I'm really motivated. I suppose you know, this is exactly why I started the podcast. My online programmes are all because I'm a psychologist. They're all focused on. Mental, emotional well-being and really I think one area that we don't do very well with. I think from a mental health perspective is prevention like we wait until problems arise and then we go, oh, I need to speak to a psychologist because I'm struggling when, you know, I think we could do a lot more if we or we could have better outcomes if we actually took a preventative approach and looked after our emotional well-being well before problems arise, so I'd love for us to talk about your work because I think that part of what I'm hearing you say is that's a focus of your work is helping women in particular during pregnancy, you know, helping with fertility issues and that kind of thing. And also, I guess helping them with their general well-being. So can you tell us a bit about, I know you said you provide services like reflexology and massage. Can you talk a little bit more about that?
Monique Thomas-Potter
Yes, so. I started my business. Think of it was about 3 1/2 years, four years ago and I started it. It was just I think. It was just. Before lockdown and during when I was studying, we was then in a pandemic. So, you know, I had a lot of case studies to write. For my this was the start of my reflexology journey, which led me into the holistic side. But but be before I am whilst I was sorry, whilst I was doing my course it was the pandemic, so I had to work a lot to my husband's, to my husband's like happiness. I had to work on his feet. So, all our case studies had to come in and I practised on him and yeah, we had to do, I think it was down to 70 case studies in the end because it was supposed to be 100, but because we wasn't allowed to go into people's homes, I had to do them mostly on my husband. So yeah, the my journey into sort of reflexology where it all started, I would say it definitely came from my Caribbean culture. So, my grandmother, who is no longer with us, she, she was very holistic and she she. You know, if you was ill or anything like that, she'd always make you a soup or go to the garden. Pick something out of there and make you know, make it better. If you had a cold or stomach problem. So that was quite ingrained into me from a young age that actually, you know, not necessarily, you know, do we need to take medication for things we might need to find a natural route first so and also I used to provide her when she had a bit of arthritis. I used to provide her with some massages in her hands and so that kind of would where my love or holistic started. And you know, I might have a headache and my husband go oh, just take some tablets to actually I don't do that. I will take my water or I'll you know go for a walk or get. Get an Indian Head massage or or do I still do that now you know, do the thing. Try the you know natural route first and then if it's still not working then maybe you might look into those things, but that won't be my first port of call. So that's where it started from. And then obviously I saw the course advertised and and I've read a bit about it and I thought I said to my husband, what do you think?
And he said Ohh, maybe you should just go for it. But my boys were quite young then and I thought, I don't know if I can do this. Because we was having sleepless nights and it was going to be like a year of study. But I just I I thought I I put myself through it and I said OK, I'm gonna give it a go. It was local to where I live. And and I started the course. Sometimes when, especially towards the end I was up all night because I'd finally get them settled down and then I have to get my, you know, work out that I needed to complete. So, then I'd go the whole night, sometimes without any sleep.
But it was worth it because I think, you know, being. Able to build. Something for yourself is, you know? Yeah, it's just amazing. Really. It's yours. You've created it, and you can, you know, work around your family. And that's been the greatest thing. But I think, yeah, I really enjoy what I do, being able to obviously support mainly mums, my main clientele is, mums, mums to be obviously fertility work and and how reflexology works, what it is really is the concept that within the feet, hands, or face, which is the areas that I work on but. One at a time usually. So, if it's like a fertility or pregnancy treatment, I'll work on the feet and and it works on the concept that we have different zones and meridians of the feet, and our feet correspond with different areas in the body. And when we apply pressure to those areas like acupressure points and we apply pressure to those areas we can. Help with natural healing in the body, so whether that be you know, to help with balancing your hormones to help with improving your stress levels, improving your mood, relaxing you, helping you with sleep, it can help with lots of different things. But we're kind of massaging the feet. We're applying acupressure points. Stimulation to the feet and you know we're releasing. Sometimes it can be an emotional release. So sometimes people are holding onto, especially around, you know, infertility. They can be holding on to a lot of emotions, a lot of tension in their body. It can release anxieties around, you know, continually, you know, trying to conceive. But you know, maybe being unsuccessful or worrying, you know, if you do, the person does get pregnant worrying about, you know that success or that pregnancy.
So, it can be really a great emotional release for people I also. In my treatments, I allow a little bit of extra time because sometimes people want to talk afterwards, so that's quite nice to be able to be have your own service where you can do that and you're not just rushing off to the next person. And I think my clients really do like that, that I make time for them because part of what what the holistic service is, it's it's providing empathy to people and being a human being. Not just, you know, just getting one person in and getting the next person in. So yeah, that's part of obviously what I do as well. But I have done extra training. So that I. Can you know respond to the needs of pregnancy clients or fertility client clients and you know, we we don't just talk, do the treatment. We work holistically. So, we look at the client’s lifestyle, stress factors. We look, where do they work or, you know, am I stay at home. But you know, we look at their lifestyle, do they have children? What is their circumstances around them coming to me? What? What is the issues? Are there any areas of their health or well-being that you know we can improve, we can change, we can help that you know. If they're really stressed, how can we reduce that stress a little bit for them? If they're not having sleep, how can we help with that?
So, I look at clients very holistically and you know, with the fertility clients. I we can talk through supplementation that they might want to consider. We talk, we talk about nutrition as well. We help them understand their testing. So, when they have hormone testing, we help them understand the hormone tests we recommend for them to go to an andrologist so that you know if there there's a malefactor around fertility, then we can look at that. But, but yeah, it's it's a whole package really. Other than just the treatment, we look at the whole situation holistically. How is the relationship with the couple? Is it happy relationship, is there issues you know, is that something that they need to work on? So, we could potentially make a referral to counselling or you know other services so. I am. We look at the whole picture, you know are is is one of the couple taking drugs? Are they drinking too much? Are they overweight? We look at everything. So, but it's really good because actually it's also an education. I found that for a lot of women, they they don't really always have an understanding of how their body. works so like for their reproductive health. Obviously, there's certain things that they would need to understand about their bodies, you know, about ovulation, for example. And sometimes we, you know, we as women don't know as much as about our bodies that we need to know. And that's really essential for them, you know, trying to conceive they. So, I've found that a lot of the feedback that I've had. Has been very positive and just you know, you've helped me to understand how my, how my, you know, body works, how you know my reproductive system works. You know when I'm ovulating. What the signs of ovulation are and about the menstrual, menstrual cycle. So that. So yeah, it's very empowering. That kind of work to be able to to do that and to help people. So I really, really enjoy it and it's really nice to be able to kind of do it for my local community as well, cause that's why I started it. I I didn't want to be travelling here, there and everywhere I wanted to do it in my local community. And and you know, there's more and more people that are kind of wanting to try holistic services before they kind of go to the GP or, you know, they go down the IVF route. So yeah, it's really quite empowering for me to be able to provide that service to people. So yes.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Oh, how wonderful. Thank you for that comprehensive explanation of what you do. I think it really helps to understand and put it into context.
I'd love for us to. Maybe shift the conversation to just some advice maybe, or what you would most like someone who may be at an earlier stage of their multiple birth parenting journey. What would you like them to know?
Monique Thomas-Potter
I would probably say, you know, like a little bit of what I was saying earlier around making some time for yourself, even if it's, you know, as something as as simple or say simple, but it's not always simple. But you know it's. Just try to make that little bit of time for yourself from the from the earlier days. You know, even if it's, you know, having that hot drink cause you. Know babies can. You know, lay down or they can, you know, sleep quite a bit, you know, in the early stages. So just trying to make, you know, not feeling guilty about making that a little bit of time for yourself. To have that hot drink or to, you know, make some time to see your friend or do something for you. That's not just necessary for your child or children, because I think we, we we grew up in a society where. It feels we feel guilty for, you know, making time for ourselves and actually. You know, it seems like we're like women and communities, like, think that you need to give everything to your child and leave yourself with nothing. And that's a sign of being a really great mum. And I think that needs to change because actually, you know, making time for yourself. And obviously, you know, caring for your child’s needs doing what your child needs. But making yourself important is is what keeps us going. If we don't look after ourselves, they're they're saying that goes, you know, you can't pour from an empty cup. It's so true because if we burn ourselves out, we exhaust ourselves. Which those early days can be. Very exhausting, I remember. Trying to, you know, at the early stage of trying to breastfeed twins is really hard and I've I've really. Put a lot of you know guilt on myself because I found it really challenging to be able to try and breastfeed 2 babies and they were both so hungry and I felt, you know, I felt like a bad mum that I was struggling to do it. And you know, the pressure that I put on myself. But I think, yeah, making that making that time for yourself. From the early stage, even if it's just once a month, once every other month that you put in your diary something for you that you can do for you. You whether it would be going for a walk on your own or you know, going to meet a friend for coffee or without the children without your partner and and just making it be that bit of you time where you don't have to, you know, be responsible for anyone else and can just look after your own needs like I have. At times been for a coffee without the children and. At first, when you start doing you think ohh this is weird. I can actually drink my coffee while it's hot. Or you know, I can actually have a conversation with a friend without being interrupted.
Obviously sort of in the last year and a half or so, I've started doing more of those things, so. I think it was a few weekends ago I went to London and for my friend's birthday and my husband said Ohh, are you going to London? And I said. Yes, I am. So actually it's it's like reclaiming who you were, who you were before you had these children. And he doesn't. You know, you shouldn't feel guilty about, you know. Doing those things so that that makes you, you and you. You know, I think you start to enjoy life a lot more and you start to be happy within yourself. When you start to reclaim who you used to be, even though life has changed and your mum, your wife, you’re you know if you’re married. But yeah, life changes in a big way, but you. Can still. Take back almost some parts of yourself that existed before the children cause it’s really, really important that. You you know, you are you as well. As well as being a mum as well as being, you know who you are for everybody else, a carer, or whoever, you know, whatever your other roles might be, but that you are you.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Absolutely. I think we wear so many hats as mothers, so many different roles that we have and you’ve inspired me, Monique, I’m thinking as you were talking, I was thinking, I want to go to London and.
Monique Thomas-Potter
You should. A friend of mine even she she said she really advocates for, like solo travel, which is going to be my I'm gonna do it this year at some point go somewhere abroad on my own. And I wanted to do it since last year, but I haven't had the time. Just have like a few days on your own to just focus on your own needs. What do I am I dehydrated? Do I need water? What do I want to eat? You know I can choose. I don't need to, you know, see if my children like it or if they don't like it and you know, do I want to shower? What time do I want to shower? You know all those sorts of things which you know we take for granted before we have children, but it's really a big thing, you know? And just to have a few days on your own, it's something that I wanna do this year and I think I will because and it also lets you know the partner that you've got. Make the rules and you know it might be a bit crazy when you get home, but that's OK, you know, letting go. I think letting go of control is something else, because I think as mums we we like to be in control of things. I know I I have done that and I like to know, you know, for example, if my husband was taking the kids out, I I used to get the bag ready for him. I used to do. Everything for him to make it easy for him, but then after a while I thought, why am I doing this? Actually, you know, he's quite capable of packing the bag. He's quite capable. Well, of, you know, getting the lunch ready. But I think sometimes we have to let go of that control that actually everything has to be our way. Everything has to be perfect. The way that we want to do things, because actually even like when your partner does those things, it might not be in the same way that you do those things. But that's OK
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Yeah, absolutely agree with sharing the load. I'm all for that. If you have a partner or other people you can rely on absolutely share the load. Thank you, Monique so much for joining us today. Before we sign off, can you tell us where people can find out more about you and your services?
Monique Thomas-Potter
Yeah, of course. So, I am on Instagram and my business is called feel at home reflexology. I'm also on Facebook. And I'm currently updating my website at the moment, but mainly you can find me on Instagram and Facebook for the moment.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
Wonderful. We'll put those links in the podcast show notes. Thank you Monique so much for joining us today. It's been a pleasure chatting with you.
Monique Thomas-Potter
Thank you very much. Thanks for having me. It's been lovely to speak to you.
Dr Cristina Cavezza
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